I truely appreciate Tom Cooch taking time to post about the behind the
scenes deliberations concerning which way to go with the LBNA site move.
I also appreciate the considerable support that I received on the list
regarding my offer to host the site. However, given that there are
apparently viable alternatives to me hosting the site on my server, I am
withdrawing the offer.
The fact that it apparently has been necessary to engage in behind the
scenes debate about whether to publicly go over "bringing up past
disagreements with Eric" leaves me to believe that there is at least one
person (or perhaps more) involved with the future LBNA development with
whom I would continue to have difficulty working. I attempted to address
this issue by posting the core issues about which there have been prior
disagreements, as well as clearly (again) stating my position on the
future of my ILC site. I tried to address this in as low key a way as
possible with my posting about why there may be some hesitation about my
offer. I have NO intention of getting into a rehash of old issues again
on the list.
If anyone else really cares (which I rather doubt), I have a complete
archive of the letterboxing-talk list from the first posting by Dan on 5-
1-98 to the present time. It includes all the debate about
"disagreements" in the past. I have been very open about my opinions and
have nothing to hide. I will provide the url to access the archive if
anyone is interested. However, I am done with it.
I am still intending to launch an online letterboxing catalog on my ILC
site where people can post clues by email and they will be available for
searching on the web the same day. I also will still offer it to be
accessible from the LBNA site (and others) if people wish to do so.
However, I am only going to proceed with it if there is sufficient
interest. Yesterday I posted a note to the letterboxing-talk list with an
address where people could send clues if they wanted to help be with the
final testing. I was going to wait a little longer before making the
posting address public on this list. However, because I am unsure of
whether there is going to be sufficient interest for me to proceed, I
decided to go ahead and post it now. If you are interested in trying it
out, you can send any clues to clues@letterboxing.com . If you have any
questions about the details, and are not on the letterboxing-talk list,
please contact me directly and I will answer your questions. Assuming I
get sufficient interest to proceed, I will publish the web page where you
can try out seaching the database within the next week. If I don't get
sufficient interest to proceed, then I am pretty much done with that as
well. I enjoy the technical aspects of creating letterboxing web
resources, but I have way too much work on some other sites that needs
to be done to waste time on things that are not of interest to others.
I wish the best for the LBNA site wherever it may move. Regardless of
whether I continue with the ILC site development, I'll likely continue
some involvement with letterboxing. Thanks again for the kind comments by
numerous people on the list. I really appreciate it!
--
Regards,
Eric Mings Ph.D.
Best Wishes
4 messages in this thread |
Started on 2000-07-15
Best Wishes
From: Eric Mings (elm@ao.net) |
Date: 2000-07-15 17:30:42 UTC-04:00
Re: [LbNA] Best Wishes
From: John De Wolf (jdewolf@mail.icrsurvey.com) |
Date: 2000-07-17 07:43:21 UTC-04:00
Eric,
It is unfortunate you came to these conclusions. "Behind the scenes debate" has been going on since well before your offer, and has thankfully NOT centered around "whether to publicly go over "bringing up past disagreements with Eric". FWIW.
John
>>> Eric Mings 07/15 5:30 PM >>>
I truely appreciate Tom Cooch taking time to post about the behind the
scenes deliberations concerning which way to go with the LBNA site move.
I also appreciate the considerable support that I received on the list
regarding my offer to host the site. However, given that there are
apparently viable alternatives to me hosting the site on my server, I am
withdrawing the offer.
The fact that it apparently has been necessary to engage in behind the
scenes debate about whether to publicly go over "bringing up past
disagreements with Eric" leaves me to believe that there is at least one
person (or perhaps more) involved with the future LBNA development with
whom I would continue to have difficulty working. I attempted to address
this issue by posting the core issues about which there have been prior
disagreements, as well as clearly (again) stating my position on the
future of my ILC site. I tried to address this in as low key a way as
possible with my posting about why there may be some hesitation about my
offer. I have NO intention of getting into a rehash of old issues again
on the list.
If anyone else really cares (which I rather doubt), I have a complete
archive of the letterboxing-talk list from the first posting by Dan on 5-
1-98 to the present time. It includes all the debate about
"disagreements" in the past. I have been very open about my opinions and
have nothing to hide. I will provide the url to access the archive if
anyone is interested. However, I am done with it.
I am still intending to launch an online letterboxing catalog on my ILC
site where people can post clues by email and they will be available for
searching on the web the same day. I also will still offer it to be
accessible from the LBNA site (and others) if people wish to do so.
However, I am only going to proceed with it if there is sufficient
interest. Yesterday I posted a note to the letterboxing-talk list with an
address where people could send clues if they wanted to help be with the
final testing. I was going to wait a little longer before making the
posting address public on this list. However, because I am unsure of
whether there is going to be sufficient interest for me to proceed, I
decided to go ahead and post it now. If you are interested in trying it
out, you can send any clues to clues@letterboxing.com . If you have any
questions about the details, and are not on the letterboxing-talk list,
please contact me directly and I will answer your questions. Assuming I
get sufficient interest to proceed, I will publish the web page where you
can try out seaching the database within the next week. If I don't get
sufficient interest to proceed, then I am pretty much done with that as
well. I enjoy the technical aspects of creating letterboxing web
resources, but I have way too much work on some other sites that needs
to be done to waste time on things that are not of interest to others.
I wish the best for the LBNA site wherever it may move. Regardless of
whether I continue with the ILC site development, I'll likely continue
some involvement with letterboxing. Thanks again for the kind comments by
numerous people on the list. I really appreciate it!
--
Regards,
Eric Mings Ph.D.
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It is unfortunate you came to these conclusions. "Behind the scenes debate" has been going on since well before your offer, and has thankfully NOT centered around "whether to publicly go over "bringing up past disagreements with Eric". FWIW.
John
>>> Eric Mings
I truely appreciate Tom Cooch taking time to post about the behind the
scenes deliberations concerning which way to go with the LBNA site move.
I also appreciate the considerable support that I received on the list
regarding my offer to host the site. However, given that there are
apparently viable alternatives to me hosting the site on my server, I am
withdrawing the offer.
The fact that it apparently has been necessary to engage in behind the
scenes debate about whether to publicly go over "bringing up past
disagreements with Eric" leaves me to believe that there is at least one
person (or perhaps more) involved with the future LBNA development with
whom I would continue to have difficulty working. I attempted to address
this issue by posting the core issues about which there have been prior
disagreements, as well as clearly (again) stating my position on the
future of my ILC site. I tried to address this in as low key a way as
possible with my posting about why there may be some hesitation about my
offer. I have NO intention of getting into a rehash of old issues again
on the list.
If anyone else really cares (which I rather doubt), I have a complete
archive of the letterboxing-talk list from the first posting by Dan on 5-
1-98 to the present time. It includes all the debate about
"disagreements" in the past. I have been very open about my opinions and
have nothing to hide. I will provide the url to access the archive if
anyone is interested. However, I am done with it.
I am still intending to launch an online letterboxing catalog on my ILC
site where people can post clues by email and they will be available for
searching on the web the same day. I also will still offer it to be
accessible from the LBNA site (and others) if people wish to do so.
However, I am only going to proceed with it if there is sufficient
interest. Yesterday I posted a note to the letterboxing-talk list with an
address where people could send clues if they wanted to help be with the
final testing. I was going to wait a little longer before making the
posting address public on this list. However, because I am unsure of
whether there is going to be sufficient interest for me to proceed, I
decided to go ahead and post it now. If you are interested in trying it
out, you can send any clues to clues@letterboxing.com . If you have any
questions about the details, and are not on the letterboxing-talk list,
please contact me directly and I will answer your questions. Assuming I
get sufficient interest to proceed, I will publish the web page where you
can try out seaching the database within the next week. If I don't get
sufficient interest to proceed, then I am pretty much done with that as
well. I enjoy the technical aspects of creating letterboxing web
resources, but I have way too much work on some other sites that needs
to be done to waste time on things that are not of interest to others.
I wish the best for the LBNA site wherever it may move. Regardless of
whether I continue with the ILC site development, I'll likely continue
some involvement with letterboxing. Thanks again for the kind comments by
numerous people on the list. I really appreciate it!
--
Regards,
Eric Mings Ph.D.
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Re: [LbNA] Best Wishes
From: Bonita Sennott (bsennott@crocker.com) |
Date: 2000-07-17 08:37:46 UTC-04:00
John, thanks for clarifying this. Dr. Mings's offer was generous and it's a
shame he withdrew it so abruptly. I feel confident that you and the other
webmasters are thinking carefully about where we place the LBNA site, so
that its continued existence and growth cannot be adversely affected by the
decisions or actions of only one person. From the very beginning (a few
years ago now!), it's been obvious that you all have the best interests of
LBNA at heart. SO--a big thanks! Many happy letterboxers could not have
found boxes and had a great time without your efforts.
Bonnie
in rainy-again Mass.
At 07:43 AM 07/17/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>It is unfortunate you came to these conclusions. "Behind the scenes
debate" has been going on since well before your offer, and has thankfully
NOT centered around "whether to publicly go over "bringing up past
disagreements with Eric". FWIW.
>
>John
>
>>>> Eric Mings 07/15 5:30 PM >>>
>I truely appreciate Tom Cooch taking time to post about the behind the
>scenes deliberations concerning which way to go with the LBNA site move.
>I also appreciate the considerable support that I received on the list
>regarding my offer to host the site. However, given that there are
>apparently viable alternatives to me hosting the site on my server, I am
>withdrawing the offer.
>
>The fact that it apparently has been necessary to engage in behind the
>scenes debate about whether to publicly go over "bringing up past
>disagreements with Eric" leaves me to believe that there is at least one
>person (or perhaps more) involved with the future LBNA development with
>whom I would continue to have difficulty working. I attempted to address
>this issue by posting the core issues about which there have been prior
>disagreements, as well as clearly (again) stating my position on the
>future of my ILC site. I tried to address this in as low key a way as
>possible with my posting about why there may be some hesitation about my
>offer. I have NO intention of getting into a rehash of old issues again
>on the list.
>
>If anyone else really cares (which I rather doubt), I have a complete
>archive of the letterboxing-talk list from the first posting by Dan on 5-
>1-98 to the present time. It includes all the debate about
>"disagreements" in the past. I have been very open about my opinions and
>have nothing to hide. I will provide the url to access the archive if
>anyone is interested. However, I am done with it.
>
>I am still intending to launch an online letterboxing catalog on my ILC
>site where people can post clues by email and they will be available for
>searching on the web the same day. I also will still offer it to be
>accessible from the LBNA site (and others) if people wish to do so.
>However, I am only going to proceed with it if there is sufficient
>interest. Yesterday I posted a note to the letterboxing-talk list with an
>address where people could send clues if they wanted to help be with the
>final testing. I was going to wait a little longer before making the
>posting address public on this list. However, because I am unsure of
>whether there is going to be sufficient interest for me to proceed, I
>decided to go ahead and post it now. If you are interested in trying it
>out, you can send any clues to clues@letterboxing.com . If you have any
>questions about the details, and are not on the letterboxing-talk list,
>please contact me directly and I will answer your questions. Assuming I
>get sufficient interest to proceed, I will publish the web page where you
>can try out seaching the database within the next week. If I don't get
>sufficient interest to proceed, then I am pretty much done with that as
>well. I enjoy the technical aspects of creating letterboxing web
>resources, but I have way too much work on some other sites that needs
>to be done to waste time on things that are not of interest to others.
>
>I wish the best for the LBNA site wherever it may move. Regardless of
>whether I continue with the ILC site development, I'll likely continue
>some involvement with letterboxing. Thanks again for the kind comments by
>numerous people on the list. I really appreciate it!
>
>--
>Regards,
>Eric Mings Ph.D.
>
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shame he withdrew it so abruptly. I feel confident that you and the other
webmasters are thinking carefully about where we place the LBNA site, so
that its continued existence and growth cannot be adversely affected by the
decisions or actions of only one person. From the very beginning (a few
years ago now!), it's been obvious that you all have the best interests of
LBNA at heart. SO--a big thanks! Many happy letterboxers could not have
found boxes and had a great time without your efforts.
Bonnie
in rainy-again Mass.
At 07:43 AM 07/17/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>It is unfortunate you came to these conclusions. "Behind the scenes
debate" has been going on since well before your offer, and has thankfully
NOT centered around "whether to publicly go over "bringing up past
disagreements with Eric". FWIW.
>
>John
>
>>>> Eric Mings
>I truely appreciate Tom Cooch taking time to post about the behind the
>scenes deliberations concerning which way to go with the LBNA site move.
>I also appreciate the considerable support that I received on the list
>regarding my offer to host the site. However, given that there are
>apparently viable alternatives to me hosting the site on my server, I am
>withdrawing the offer.
>
>The fact that it apparently has been necessary to engage in behind the
>scenes debate about whether to publicly go over "bringing up past
>disagreements with Eric" leaves me to believe that there is at least one
>person (or perhaps more) involved with the future LBNA development with
>whom I would continue to have difficulty working. I attempted to address
>this issue by posting the core issues about which there have been prior
>disagreements, as well as clearly (again) stating my position on the
>future of my ILC site. I tried to address this in as low key a way as
>possible with my posting about why there may be some hesitation about my
>offer. I have NO intention of getting into a rehash of old issues again
>on the list.
>
>If anyone else really cares (which I rather doubt), I have a complete
>archive of the letterboxing-talk list from the first posting by Dan on 5-
>1-98 to the present time. It includes all the debate about
>"disagreements" in the past. I have been very open about my opinions and
>have nothing to hide. I will provide the url to access the archive if
>anyone is interested. However, I am done with it.
>
>I am still intending to launch an online letterboxing catalog on my ILC
>site where people can post clues by email and they will be available for
>searching on the web the same day. I also will still offer it to be
>accessible from the LBNA site (and others) if people wish to do so.
>However, I am only going to proceed with it if there is sufficient
>interest. Yesterday I posted a note to the letterboxing-talk list with an
>address where people could send clues if they wanted to help be with the
>final testing. I was going to wait a little longer before making the
>posting address public on this list. However, because I am unsure of
>whether there is going to be sufficient interest for me to proceed, I
>decided to go ahead and post it now. If you are interested in trying it
>out, you can send any clues to clues@letterboxing.com . If you have any
>questions about the details, and are not on the letterboxing-talk list,
>please contact me directly and I will answer your questions. Assuming I
>get sufficient interest to proceed, I will publish the web page where you
>can try out seaching the database within the next week. If I don't get
>sufficient interest to proceed, then I am pretty much done with that as
>well. I enjoy the technical aspects of creating letterboxing web
>resources, but I have way too much work on some other sites that needs
>to be done to waste time on things that are not of interest to others.
>
>I wish the best for the LBNA site wherever it may move. Regardless of
>whether I continue with the ILC site development, I'll likely continue
>some involvement with letterboxing. Thanks again for the kind comments by
>numerous people on the list. I really appreciate it!
>
>--
>Regards,
>Eric Mings Ph.D.
>
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>the huge selection at Zappos.com, the Web's Most Popular Store!
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>
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Best Wishes
From: erik/susan davis (davisarc@wcvt.com) |
Date: 2000-07-18 08:07:15 UTC-07:00
Thanks Bonnie! There will be a way to succeed. I know you can remember
back far enough to appreciate that the technical ends of this stuff
aren't all over the talk list (takes up a lot of space and TIME).
Regards, Susan
In rainy foggy thundery flooding Vermont
back far enough to appreciate that the technical ends of this stuff
aren't all over the talk list (takes up a lot of space and TIME).
Regards, Susan
In rainy foggy thundery flooding Vermont